‘Succession’ Had Another Huge Reveal in Episode 4 (2024)

The following story contains spoilers for Season 4, Episode 4 of Succession, "Honeymoon States."

In the aftermath of the shocking events of Succession's instant classic Season 4 Episode 3, "Connor's Wedding"—where Logan Roy (Brian Cox) did, in fact, die, and, perhaps even more surprisingly, against all odds, Connor (Alan Ruck) and Willa (Justine Lupe) did get married—Season 4 opens with Logan's three most ambitious children, Kendall (Jeremy Strong), Roman (Kieran Culkin), and Shiv (Sarah Snook), stewing. None of them seem to be doing particularly well. And, as it turns out, there's some more news brewing for the Roy family.

We know that, at this point, grieving is just the beginning. Shiv already gave a statement to the media on the family (and company's) behalf announcing her father's death, adding, unnecessarily, that she, Roman, and Kendall planned to be involved with the company's future. Before they even really say goodbye to their cruel father for good, they'll have to start planning (and scheming) about the future of Waystar-Royco and how to move forward with the sale to Lukas Matsson (Alexander Skarsgård). And, as we find out, Shiv has something else going on too.

At the start of Season 4, Episode 4, titled "Honeymoon States," while Roman and Kendall are grieving in solitude, Shiv, lying in bed, receives a call on her phone from a Dr. Sharon Hasford. Dr. Hasford clearly follows the news and knows that this is a rough time for Shiv; nonetheless, she's calling with "results," which she promises are "good news."

Seemingly coming out of nowhere, this is certainly a moment of confusion for us viewers. Is Shiv sick? Is something else going on? That's a question that ultimately answers itself—if you know what you're listening to.

Is Shiv Roy pregnant in Succession Season 4?

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Yes. Shiv Roy, as it turns out, is pregnant in Succession Season 4. During Dr. Hasford's call, she reveals that, while there may have been an earlier scare, they've recently run an amniocentesis test (a prenatal test to see if a baby has any health conditions) that came back all clear. “Everything looks healthy," the doctor tells Shiv on the phone. "And you’re still well? No spotting? No bleeding?”

Shiv has nothing more to report. Before the end of the call, in case we couldn't pick it up from any other details, Dr. Hasford reminds Shiv to make an appointment for her 20 week scan.

There's another Roy on the way. But will this Roy actually be a Wambsgans?

There were hints to Shiv's pregnancy in earlier Succession episodes.

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Shiv drinking water during "Connor’s Wedding"

As far back as the Season 3 Italy episodes—when Kendall, Shiv, and Roman's mom was getting re-married—there have been hints that Shiv has actually been pregnant. She was toasting with water in her glass during this time, and, Shiv has seemed throughout Succession like someone who would enjoy a nice glass of bubbly when the occasion strikes.

This is also the time period when Tom Wambsgans (Matthew Macfadyen) brought up the idea of having kids with Shiv, and when Shiv only came around to the idea when Caroline (her mother) basically dressed her down and clearly hurt her ego.

During "Connor's Wedding," Shiv is also seen (in a dialogue-free moment) declining a glass of champagne when arriving at the venue, and then is only later seen drinking water throughout the episode.

Sarah Snook is pregnant in real life, so it appears that creator/showrunner Jesse Armstrong and the rest of the Succession writing staff took that as an opportunity to create yet another wrinkle in the ever-expansive Succession drama.

What does Shiv's pregnancy mean for the rest of season 4—especially after her nasty fall at the end of Episode 4?

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There are plenty of questions that abound now that we know that Shiv is pregnant. One, of course: who is the father? Based on the vibes of Season 4, it would seem that Shiv and Tom have been estranged for quite some time. However, as a well-researched piece in Vulture points out, the events of the entire Succession series to this point have only taken place over the course of about a year, in-universe. Given what we learned about the presidential election, among other things, it's likely that Logan's death was only a couple months after the wedding in Italy.

So, while Shiv and Tom have had an open relationship since the night they got married (who could forget?) it's absolutely possible that Tom is still the father of Shiv's baby, despite the two being separated and planning on divorcing. With so much in flux, this could make for some major character moments to come for both Shiv and Tom.

Near the end of the episode, after Kendall and Roman are chosen as interim co-CEOs by the Waystar-Royco board following Logan's death, Shiv emerges from the meeting in a quiet furor. She's upset that she once again was passed over by her brothers (though they promise to share the power and decision-making with her) and as she storms out, yells at both Stewy (Arian Moayed) and the Tucker Carlson-esque ATN anchor Mark Ravenhead (Zack Robidas) in her path. And then she falls down—hard.

Some have speculated that, following the fall, Shiv suffered a miscarriage. But we don't think so. Rather, this seems to just be illusory of a classic adage: "When it rains, it pours." It has not been a good day for Logan Roy's left-leaning political advisor-turned-potential successor-turned-corporate executive daughter. And now she fell on her face in front of everyone—and the first person to help her up is the soon-to-be-ex-husband (and likely father of her child) who she hates and who previously betrayed her. It's not a good time.

But it would be rather shallow storytelling to introduce a pregnancy plotline only to have it lost via random miscarriage by the end of the episode. We'll certainly be hearing more about this one in the weeks to come.

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FAQs

What did Kerry whisper to Roman? ›

It's difficult to catch everything she says, but we can clearly pick out the phrases "talking about getting married" and "he was making arrangements". Kerry then asks Roman to check on her request, and he promises that he will.

Why did Shiv vote against Kendall? ›

Succession's Sarah Snook explains the reason for Shiv's pivotal vote in series finale. Snook says Shiv did not appreciate seeing Kendall put his feet up on Logan Roy's desk. Feet. Oh sure, they're useful for walking around on, but they can also get you into a lot of trouble.

Did Logan really want Shiv to take over? ›

But there's also truth to Roman's reply to Shiv: Logan didn't really want any of them. Didn't want Kendall, the junkie addict; didn't want Roman, the sexual deviant; and probably didn't want Shiv, though he offered her the job in the second season.

What was the big twist in Succession? ›

Logan's death, which happens off-screen, shook up the show in a big way, leaving his children scrambling to assume control of Waystar Royco. Cox has acknowleged that the twist occurred in “a pretty brilliant way”, but said he felt creator Jesse Armstrong “decided to make Logan die, I think ultimately too early”.

Was Kerry pregnant with Logan's baby? ›

Although Logan Roy's former assistant Kerry isn't in Succession season 4, episode 4 much, her one big scene heavily implies that she is pregnant with Logan's child. Kerry shows up at Logan Roy's apartment while the Roys and Waystar Royco higher-ups are discussing what to do in the midst of Logan's death, with Kerry's ...

What did Roman say about Kendall's kids? ›

It was previously theorized that both of Kendall's children were adopted, but in the Succession finale, Roman reveals that only one of them was adopted. The other was conceived via a sperm donor.

Why did Shiv change her mind last minute? ›

Shiv's decision wasn't "calculated" and doesn't have "anything to do with helping Tom," Matthew Macfadyen, who plays Tom, told Variety. Instead, "it's just that she can't stomach her brother," and the moment of truth comes when she sees Kendall deliver his speech to the board right before the vote.

Why did Siobhan betray Kendall? ›

Summary. Shiv's decision to not support Kendall in the Succession finale was not a calculated move, but rather an instinctual response rooted in her complicated relationship with her siblings.

What happens to Greg in Succession? ›

In the end, Tom keeps Greg around, despite the fact that he sold him out by telling Kendall about Matsson's plan to ditch Shiv. Tom tells Greg, “I got you,” and puts that purple sticker on his forehead. The same sticker that was being used to divide up Logan's things.

Are Shiv and Roman twins? ›

While the series is vague about their ages, their half brother Connor, who is the oldest, is in his fifties and claims he is 'two decades older' than them. However, one defining suggestion that they aren't twins is that on the HBO website, Shiv is referred to as the 'youngest of the Roy children'.

Does Shiv even love Tom? ›

“I may not love you,” Shiv told Tom once, “but I do love you.” Now, she tells him, she doesn't even like him. As she finishes the thought, you can see the awareness spreading across her face, saying it to hurt him but realizing its truth.

What was the big surprise on Succession? ›

Kendall Roy (Jeremy Strong) will not run Waystar-Royco, and her estranged husband, Tom Wambsgans, a nobody from Minnesota, will instead become the American CEO of the newly merged company. It was a classic Succession surprise.

What happened to Roman at the end of Succession? ›

In Roman's final scene, he's alone in a bar drinking a martini. He briefly smiles. The man is dirty rich, and he's free. It's true, he never wanted to run Waystar Royco.

Did anyone like the ending of Succession? ›

While many hailed the 90-minute finale as a success, others were left underwhelmed. “Succession” showrunner Jesse Armstrong has previously said he had an idea of how he wanted to end the show for a while — and did not budge off how he thought the show should end.

Does Roman ever sleep with Tabitha? ›

They decide to have sex, but Roman makes Tabitha uncomfortable by suggesting she pretend to be dead, as he needs the act to be taboo or wrong in some way.

Why was Kerry crying in Succession? ›

The Kerry scene seems especially brutal because she is clearly genuinely upset about Logan's death (and maybe her out-of-reach medication), and very few other people seem to be. "Look who's crawled out of the woodwork," Greg sneers, and he's not the only person who frames her as a phony gold-digger.

What did the paper say in Succession? ›

In this season's fourth episode, "Honeymoon States," Kendall is left pondering a single sheet of paper found in his father's private safe. The document, which says that Kendall should succeed Logan as CEO, includes a puzzling addendum: A penciled-in mark that either underlines Kendall's name, or crosses it out.

What did Kerry drop in Succession? ›

It was all over in a matter of seconds, but eagle-eyed viewers hit pause. Taking to Twitter, journalist Rachel Syme wrote, 'the set designer who stuffed Kerry's bag with Hum Vitamins, a tub of Laura Mercier powder, and a (now broken) Fenty Compact as if she recently used Logan's credit card during a Sephora [...]

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